Dienstag, September 01, 2015

Chrissie Hynde (Pretenders): "Manche Frauen sind mit an ihrer Vergewaltigung schuld"

Eines der wenigen Dinge, von denen ich weiß, dass Anne Wizorek und ich sie gemeinsam haben, ist eine Vorliebe für die Pretenders. Zur Empörung vieler Feministinnen gab deren Frontfrau Chrissie Hynde im Vorlauf auf ihre Biographie jetzt allerdings ein Interview, in dem sie manchen vergewaltigten Frauen eine Mitschuld an dem Verbrechen gab. Spiegel-Online berichtet ausführlich über Hyndes Äußerungen sowie die Reaktionen. Ich zitiere einmal zwei Reaktionen, die in dem Artikel nicht erwähnt werden:

Gegen den Strom schwimmt Julia Hartley-Brewer im britischen Telegraph. Ihre Ansicht: Chrissie Hynde was right about rape. Now feminists want to silence her:

Mrs Mowat, a former judge, was castigated last year for saying that rape convictions will not go up "until women stop getting drunk", because juries face an impossible task to decide whose version of events is the truth when the woman was too drunk to know what actually happened.

It was a statement of fact. The Sisterhood, however, has no time for irritating little details like facts.

Like her fellow Sisterhood exiles, in her comments about rape, Miss Hynde was simply suggesting that women have to live in the real world, as it exists, and not a utopian paradise where sexual violence is a thing of the past.

(...) You have every right to leave your front door wide open while you are away on holiday and assert your right not be burgled, but most people (including your insurance company) might advise against it. Similarly, you are entitled to walk into an opposing football team’s local pub wearing your own club’s shirt and demand not be punched in the face, but you probably shouldn’t be surprised if it happens.

In the same vein, telling a young woman she can wear what she wants, drink as much alcohol as she wants, go off with any strange man she wants and to hell with the consequences, is not a victory for modern feminism. It’s just irresponsible.

Anderer Auffassung ist das maskulistische Blog Toy Soldiers mit dem Beitrag Chrissie Hynde makes me agree with feminists.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. So here comes one of the few instances I am inclined to agree with feminists. (...) Hynde stated in an interview, "If I’m walking around in my underwear and I’m drunk. Who else’s fault can it be?"

The rapist’s. It does not matter what you are wearing or not wearing. It does not matter if you are sober or high. It does not matter if you are being provocative and enticing or shy and withdrawn.

No one should have sex with you without your permission, let alone force you into sex.

If they do, that is not your fault.

I will agree that it is not a good idea to be "very lairy and putting it about and being provocative" around someone you think is unhinged. That you are responsible for. If you think that behavior will put you at risk, then you should not engage in it.

However, you have no control over or any responsibility for how another person acts. They are responsible for their own behavior. This is particularly true when you are vulnerable. Indeed, it makes it even worse for someone to assault you when you clearly have no means of fighting back.

That is not to say I do not understand Hynde’s logic. I apply it to my own experiences. I understand why someone would look back on their life and think that if they had not done this or that then things would have happened differently. The difference, at least based on this article, is that Hynde does not acknowledge that logically she is not at fault. She seems to genuinely think she caused the assault to happen.

In that sense, I can agree with feminists that this is the wrong way of thinking.

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